Carmarthenshire was comprised of eight hundreds (Carnwallon, Carthinog, Cayo, Derllys, Elvet, Iskennen, Kidwelly and Perfedd) and the chief towns were the county town and borough of Carmarthen, Llandovery, Kidwelly, Llandeilo, Llanelli, Llandybie, Newcastle Emlyn and St. Clears.
Your son certainly stands in the foremost rank, but there are others who have a right to look to that honour; it therefore will in my opinion be right and fair that a meeting of the county should be called for the purpose of ascertaining who has the good wishes of the freeholders at large. Having seen the evils of a contested election, I am the last person that would wish to renew such a horror, but still I can never consent to see the county placed in the hands of anyone, not even your son (of whom I think very highly, and who I should be as happy to see our representative as anyone could be, provided he has the general approbation of the gentlemen and freeholders) without which he ought not to be thrust upon us by any manoeuvre.
Dynevor mss 161/5.
Rice, however, had already consulted and secured backing for the arrangement from another leading Red, William Lewes of Llysnewydd, as well as the Philippses of Cwmgwili, whose father and grandfather had previously represented Carmarthen in the Blue interest, and no county nomination meeting was called.
Opinion in West Wales was divided on the future of the Welsh courts of great sessions and judicature, the Blues favouring their abolition and the Reds their reform and retention. Influenced by Jones, who had drafted remedial legislation, on 10 May 1820 a county meeting at Llandeilo resolved to petition requesting improvements to the Welsh judicial system to ensure that witnesses living beyond the jurisdiction of each circuit court attended when summoned; that English practices and procedures governing fines, recoveries, securities and payment of the king’s silver applied, and that expensive suits in English courts could be avoided and elderly or infirm judges qualified for retirement pensions. Both Houses received the petition, 25 May 1820, when it was opposed in the Lords by Cawdor and in the Commons by Campbell and Allen.
personal property to be made liable to contribute with the landed interest towards the support of the poor, so that money may bear its proportion in the maintenance of that poor, alike useful to every class of the community; and that the House will be pleased to reduce the legal interest of money to four per cent and to postpone the total resumption of cash payments beyond the period now fixed by law.
Carmarthen Jnl. 31 Jan.; Cambrian, 1 Feb.; The Times, 3 Feb. 1823; CJ, lxxviii. 27.
It was received by the Commons, 17 Feb. 1823, and the Lords on the 24th.
On 2 May 1823 the grand jury petitioned for John Jones’s bill to extend the powers of the Welsh courts of great sessions and their judges. It foundered that session, was ‘passed with difficulty’ and much amended in the Commons, 24 May 1824, and after undergoing further amendment in the Lords, where it was sponsored by Dynevor and had lord chancellor Eldon’s support, it received royal assent, 24 June 1824.
The campaigning against corn law reform continued and, though the county did not petition again, agricultural protection was an important issue at the 1826 general election.
The route from London to Milford Haven traversed Carmarthenshire, and Jones and Rice Trevor were included on the 1827 select committee on communications with Ireland via Milford. Landholders and tradesmen in the parishes of the hundred of Perfedd petitioned individually and collectively against corn law revision and added a request for government action to safeguard the depressed wool trade, 8 Mar. 1827.
The 1828 commission on the courts of common law requested the county’s views on the future of the Welsh courts and judicature. Cawdor published an open letter to the lord chancellor advocating abolition and incorporation of the Welsh counties into the English circuit system, and R.B. Williams arranged for Cawdor’s tenants and supporters to sign pro-abolition memorials for submission and drafted a favourable letter from the gentry of Carmarthenshire. This was signed by Thomas Beynon of Greenmeadow, William Owen Brigstocke of Gelli Dywyll, Thomas Foley of Abermarlais, James Richard Lewes Lloyd of Dolhaidd, the Carmarthen bankers Morris and Sons, M. Philipps of Cwmgwili, Walter Price of Llwynbrain and James Hamlyn Williams. Herbert Evans supported them, but Dynevor and John Jones, who also testified on the county’s behalf, still had misgivings.
At least 48 Carmarthenshire petitions for the abolition of slavery were presented to the Commons between 19 Nov. 1830 and 24 Mar. 1831, and a similar number (including 23 from Welsh Calvinistic Methodist and 13 from Wesleyan Methodist chapels), were received by the Lords that session. Almost all had been adopted by Nonconformist congregations and women’s groups in and around Carmarthen, Kidwelly, Llandovery, Llanelli, Newcastle Emlyn and St. Clears, and several originated from the Llansawel area where Sir James Hamlyn Williams had influence.
Some of you may know, that soon after the last election, I pledged myself to resign my seat if my constituents declared themselves favourable to any measure that I could not support; and I came here for that purpose this day, thinking that the late county meeting was decisive proof of the feeling of my constituents on the proposed bill. But on looking at the terms of the requisition I find none but the favourers of the measure were invited to attend. Knowing that some declined going to the meeting under that impression; that the business of the meeting was held by the sheriff to be merely to express its concurrence in the plan of His Majesty’s ministers; and that he even refused to hear a gentleman who wished to discuss a part of the bill, namely the annexation of Llanelli to the borough of Carmarthen, I cannot look at the issue of that meeting, thinly attended as it was, as marking the sense of the majority of the freeholders of Carmarthenshire; for it would be strange indeed when a meeting is called to concur in a given measure, if those who stayed away were to be considered as being favourable to it. I have therefore altered my purpose, but I do not retract what I have before said; and now if the body of my constituents call on me to resign my trust into their hands, I am ready and willing to do so. For no one can expect, feeling as I do on this important measure, I could be brought to give it my support.
Ibid. 22 Apr. 1831.
Rice Trevor voted to wreck the bill, 19 Apr., and at the ensuing dissolution, 23 Apr., two days after the Lords received the favourable county petition, he announced that he would stand down, for he was aware that the freeholders would insist on a pledge of support for it, ‘or at any rate ... some of its provisions’.
The campaign to secure a second county seat had gathered momentum after one was awarded to Glamorgan on population grounds (over 100,000), and a county meeting at Llandeilo, 8 June 1831, called for on election day, adopted petitions for additional county representation and separate borough representation for Kidwelly, Llanelli and the eastern mining district. Hamlyn Williams presented both, 24 June, and the Commons received others from the grand jury for a second county Member, 30 July; from Hamlyn Williams’s stronghold of Derllys for £10 landowners to be given the same franchise rights as £10 householders, 4 Aug.; and from Kidwelly requesting contributory borough status, 30 Aug.
I am not sure that I am not upon consideration inclined to agree with those who have named Carmarthen as one of the polling places for the county. It is very convenient in many ways, St. Clears is a very poor place, and Newcastle on the confines of the county. One should hope that that rioting at Carmarthen will not be eternal, and, as to what took place at the last election, I do think that there was sufficient cause for any great excitement and that the excitement was much increased by the injudicious methods taken to put it down. However, I will not object to any arrangement that may be made and if Newcastle and St. Clears are thought more convenient I will not put any obstacle in the way.
Dynevor mss 154/7.
An attempt to make Rice Trevor county sheriff and thereby hors de combat had failed, and he stood as a Conservative in December 1832, when the registered electorate was 3,887. Church reform and the abolition of colonial slavery, for which the Protestant Dissenters of Saron Chapel Llangeler and others had recently petitioned, were the major issues and Rice Trevor, who had won respect by resigning over reform and retained the valuable support of Pryse Lloyd of Glansevin and Powell of Maesgwyn, topped the poll.
Estimated voters: 3000
